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Politics Podcast: Trump Vs. The Polls — Vol. II

President-elect Donald Trump is waging a new battle against polling, arguing that his approval rating is “rigged.” (He made similar claims about horserace polls during the 2016 presidential election.) The FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast breaks down what makes approval ratings different from election polls and why Trump’s historically low rating could actually pose a challenge. The team also discusses the history of dissent at presidential inaugurations and how crowd sizes are estimated.

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Jody Avirgan hosts and produces podcasts for FiveThirtyEight.

Nate Silver is the founder and editor in chief of FiveThirtyEight.

Clare Malone is a senior political writer for FiveThirtyEight.

Harry Enten is a senior political writer and analyst for FiveThirtyEight.