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Politics Podcast: How To Think About The Risk Of Nuclear War

As the war in Ukraine enters its third week, the threat of a nuclear conflict hangs in the balance. NATO has said it will not send troops to Ukraine or, despite repeated calls from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, enforce a no-fly zone over the country. Doing so, NATO says, risks escalating the situation to a direct conflict between nuclear powers.

In this installment of the FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast, Galen Druke speaks with James M. Acton, the co-director of the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, about how leaders and experts quantify the risks of such a catastrophe.

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Galen Druke is FiveThirtyEight’s podcast producer and reporter.