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Derek Tisler

Q: Are there any states where you’re tracking potential problems closely? Or if not, are there types of problems you’re zeroing in on across states?

I’m most focused on states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, where we expect unofficial results to be released over a longer period of time than we’ve seen in the past. But it is not because I expect any problems to occur with the actual counting of votes, or that slower counting should lead us to doubt the accuracy of results. My concern is that people might try to take advantage of the uncertainty that exists on election night to create an illusion of chaos or illegitimacy.

In some states, the vote count will climb considerably after election officials release initial unofficial results on election night. This shouldn’t be a cause for concern, though. Typically, this happens for three reasons.

First, there are ballots that were received on or before Election Day (both mail and in-person), but that election officials did not have time to count on Election Day. Second, in some states, there are ballots that were cast by a voter on or before Election Day, but did not arrive by mail until after Election Day. Third, there are provisional ballots, which are cast on or before Election Day but can’t be counted until after because some additional verification is needed.

In all three cases, there is nothing different about these votes from the ones that are added to totals on election night. They are all legitimate votes cast by voters on or before Election Day. The order in which election officials count them — or how long it takes to count them — does not make them worth more or less in the final total.

There is some speculation that a cyberattack or technical failure could disrupt the reporting of results. But if that were to happen, there is almost always a back-up in place that election officials can fall back on to verify results, including an opportunity to double-check numbers or correct any errors in a later step.

Accuracy takes time. But counting every vote — and counting every vote correctly — is worth the wait.

Derek Tisler

Talking Election Problems With The Brennan Center

On Friday, FiveThirtyEight talked with Derek Tisler, fellow with the Brennan Center for Justice’s Democracy Program, and coauthor of The Roadmap to the Official Count in an Unprecedented Election, which covers the measures election officials are taking against fraud and ensuring every vote is counted accurately. The conversation has been lightly edited.

Q: Something we’re trying to help readers at FiveThirtyEight understand is what the expected vote might look like on election night — which states will have results, whether there will be a red or blue shift in the ballots reported, etc. But a key part of this is understanding what mechanisms are in place to help ensure a fair and accurate vote count.

We were hoping you could help walk readers through that broadly. How much of the voting counting process is the same state to state and how much of this varies? Additionally, what new challenges are posed by COVID-19?

The basic steps for counting votes are the same in every state and they’ve been the same for decades, Election officials: 1) verify voter eligibility (after receiving mail ballots or while checking in voters who cast their ballots in person); 2) count all the ballots and release unofficial totals to the public and the media; 3) double and triple check their math; and then 4) once they are sure they have all the votes counted, certify their final results.

Steps 3 and 4 always happen after election night, and usually after we know who won the presidency based on the media’s projections. Indeed, the official vote counting process in each state typically does not finish until two to five weeks after Election Day. And it will be no different this year. Election officials are confident that they will meet their certification deadlines.

What will be different this year is the timing in between the four steps. And this will vary considerably among states for two main reasons.

First, people choose to vote differently in each state, and the counting process looks different for each method of voting. When you vote in a polling place, the process of checking in voters and verifying eligibility is done before the voter casts their ballot. When you vote by mail, the process of checking in voters and verifying eligibility is done after the voter casts their ballot, but before the ballot is counted.

Because of this shift in when verification is done, mail ballots tend to take longer to count than in-person ballots. So in states where more voters are casting their ballots by mail, we can expect the processing and counting to take longer as well. And because of the pandemic, most states are seeing a huge surge in mail voting.

Second, each state sets its own rules for when to begin counting mail ballots. Many battleground states – including Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina – allow election officials to begin verifying voter information on mail ballot envelopes, opening those envelopes, and even counting the ballots before Election Day.

But in Michigan, counting can’t begin until Election Day, and in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, election officials can’t even begin verifying and opening envelopes until Election Day. So even as election officials are following largely similar steps in each state to determine and verify the accuracy of results, these variations in state rules influence how fast they can release unofficial results to the public.

Nathaniel Rakich

Reader Question On Counting Mail Ballots

CJ from Brooklyn, New York: There’s a lot of talk about it taking longer to count mail-in ballots than in-person ballots on Nov. 3. Is there a reason those ballots take longer to count (other than some are still eligible for counting after the polls close)?

There are a few reasons. First, mail ballots need to be physically removed from their envelopes, signatures need to be verified and the ballots need to be inserted into tabulation machines. By contrast, in-person votes don’t have envelopes, your signature is verified when you check in (if that’s even a requirement in your state) and voters themselves insert their ballots into the machine (all election officials need to do at the end of the night is hit a button and the machine will spit out the results). In addition, as you mention, some states accept mail ballots that arrive after Election Day, and some also have a grace period of sorts in which people can fix, or “cure,” problems with their ballot.

If you’re wondering when mail ballots — or, indeed, all ballots — will be counted on election night, I recommend our new interactive, “When To Expect Election Results In Every State.”


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