FiveThirtyEight
Andres Waters

I think there’s some validity to that idea, Jake. On the other side of Jared’s point, the lower seeds probably do come into the game knowing they have a chance to win.

Jared Dubin

Per Jake’s question, I think it might make the No. 2 seeds more alert to the possibility that they could lose, and be worse for those No. 15s.

Jake Lourim

Personally, I think the answer to this is no, but I’m curious to hear all of your thoughts: Do you think there’s any effect of early tournament games on later ones? You do hear about players sitting in their hotels and watching games, and you sometimes even hear about how they take meaning from them. As in, did Saint Peter’s win last night make the three No. 15 seeds playing today feel like they have a chance?

Santul Nerkar

Sheesh, Jacksonville State has some flamethrowers.

Santul Nerkar

Yes, Josh. The Tigers’ guards seem to think they’re the NBA prospects on this team.

Josh Planos

Someone should show that mock draft to Auburn’s starting backcourt, Santul.

Jared Dubin

One of my friends has assured me that I will love Smith’s game when I do my deeper dive before the draft, so I’m excited to get a closer look at him today. I’m sure there will be tougher opponents than Jacksonville State but it’s just good to see how a guy plays.

Santul Nerkar

For the more NBA-interested folks among us, Auburn’s starting five features two likely top-20 picks in Jabari Smith and Walker Kessler, with Smith being tossed around as a potential No. 1 pick. Smith has been compared favorably to taller shooters like Michael Porter Jr., while Kessler’s aircraft carrier-like wingspan and elite shot-blocking has earned him comparisons to top-flight defenders like Jarrett Allen and Jakob Poeltl.

Neil Paine

Yes, they are holding their own against mighty Auburn!

Sara Ziegler

OK, Jacksonville State is super fun. This game has a lot of action!

Jake Lourim

Jacksonville State also took maybe the strangest route to reach this tournament. JSU didn’t actually win its conference tournament — Bellarmine did. Bellarmine, though, is new to Division I and thus cannot make the Big Dance due to some annoying NCAA red tape. So, JSU is here even though it lost to Jacksonville (which IS in Florida) in the semifinals.

Neil Paine

And yet there is also a Jacksonville in “actual” Jacksonville (Florida): The Dolphins!

Sara Ziegler

Today I learned that Jacksonville State is in Alabama, not Florida. March Madness is actually the best time for a U.S. geography lesson.

Neil Paine

It sure seemed like a lot of it came from them not being able to space the floor, Saint Peter’s collapsing on Tshiebwe and Calipari inexplicably not really having any adjustment to counter. If one was so inclined, that game could be held up as an example of the dangers of building with that old-school approach.

Santul Nerkar

Neil, how much of that terrible offense has to do with Kentucky’s stylistic choices? Jake wrote for us a couple of weeks ago about how this Wildcats team was eschewing threes at a rate not seen by high seeds in recent memory — did going for an old-school approach doom them?

Andres Waters

I’m just excited to see Davidson play because I want to see more plays like this:

Josh Planos

Michigan State vs. Davidson should make for a fun one later tonight. This Spartans team has limped into the tournament with losses in 8 of its last 13 games, and Davidson can shoot from just about anywhere. As a fun note, Loyola Chicago head coach Drew Valentine is the brother of former Michigan State standout Denzel Valentine, who was on the last Sparty team to get upset in the opening round.

Neil Paine

Kentucky’s offense was SO ugly late in that game. And it helped the Peacocks pull off one of the biggest upsets ever:

The Peacocks strutted their stuff in a historic upset

Biggest men’s NCAA Tournament upsets since 1985, according to Elo win probability and difference in pregame Elo ratings

Year Winner Elo Loser Elo Score Upset %
2012 Norfolk St. 1443 Missouri 2029 86-84 1.6
2018 UMBC 1578 Virginia 2132 74-54 2.5
2022 St. Peter’s 1576 Kentucky 2000 85-79 4.6
1997 Coppin St. 1513 South Carolina 1963 78-65 4.8
2016 MTSU 1638 Michigan St. 2078 90-81 5.5
1987 Austin Peay 1592 Illinois 2022 68-67 5.5
2021 Oral Roberts 1557 Ohio St. 1956 75-72 5.7
1993 Santa Clara 1605 Arizona 2019 64-61 6.1
2013 FGCU 1615 Georgetown 1990 78-68 7.7
2001 Hampton 1514 Iowa St. 1887 58-57 7.8
Year Winner Elo Loser Elo Score Elo Diff.
2012 Norfolk St. 1443 Missouri 2029 86-84 586.1
2018 UMBC 1578 Virginia 2132 74-54 553.6
1997 Coppin St. 1513 South Carolina 1963 78-65 450.0
2016 MTSU 1638 Michigan St. 2078 90-81 439.4
1987 Austin Peay 1592 Illinois 2022 68-67 429.8
2022 St. Peter’s 1576 Kentucky 2000 85-79 424.1
1993 Santa Clara 1605 Arizona 2019 64-61 413.8
2021 Oral Roberts 1557 Ohio St. 1956 75-72 398.9
1999 Weber St. 1601 North Carolina 1997 76-74 396.5
2013 FGCU 1615 Georgetown 1990 78-68 375.4
Jake Lourim

Tony’s earlier point about Kentucky’s late-game struggles with offensive execution is great, and Calipari didn’t have much to say about it in his postgame press conference. But this jumped out at me: “We were in every time out trying to encourage. You’re going to be fine; we’ve just got to make a play. You know, at one point with five minutes to go, one of the guys got on a guy and said, ‘Stop, there’s five minutes, just be positive. Just leave it alone. Just be positive.'”

That is not something you expect to hear from, of all teams, Kentucky — especially a Kentucky team this old and this experienced.

Andres Waters

That game was awesome, Sara! The Mount started that game down 22-5 at the end of the first and only lost by four points.

Sara Ziegler

That was so much fun, Andres. Great night of games all around!

Andres Waters

She came out on fire, too. She had nine of the first 13 points when her team started that game with a 13-0 run.

Andres Waters

Did anybody watch the women’s First Four last night? Akila Smith from Longwood went off against Mount St. Mary’s with 32 points and 13 rebounds!
Josh Planos

It hasn’t exactly been an inspiring two seasons since John Calipari got a “lifetime contract.”

Tony Chow

According to ESPN, there are only 743 perfect men’s brackets left. If Nate is still in Vegas, I would ask him to bet my savings that that number goes down to 0 after this afternoon. Fingers crossed for another 15-2 upset sometime today.

Santul Nerkar

Tony, Kentucky just looked scared out there. They played like a young, inexperienced team — or what Calipari’s teams usually are.

Santul Nerkar

It’s usually unwise to bet against Kentucky in the early rounds. From 2010 (when John Calipari got to Lexington) to 2021, Kentucky had the best performance against KenPom expectations and against seed expectations, according to Bart Torvik — and it wasn’t particularly close. In other words, when David went up this Goliath, the latter almost always prevailed. Last night was an aberration of historic proportions — not only in terms of the scale of the upset, but how it came against one of the surest bets in March.

Sara Ziegler

I liked your tweet last night, Tony, that everyone who said they knew where Saint Peter’s was before yesterday was lying.

Tony Chow

It would be helpful to have Calipari explain himself and tell us what offense he was running in OT last night. Kentucky just looked lost on some of those possessions. Shoutout to Jersey City though!

Jake Lourim

Kentucky’s overall free-throw shooting didn’t help! I expected the Wildcats to get a generous whistle in Indianapolis, and they did, but they ended up making only 23 of 35 total free throws. Most notably, Oscar Tshiebwe missed two on the first possession of overtime, and Sahvir Wheeler missed two in a row later, with Kentucky ahead 75-72. That left the door open for Saint Peter’s.

Josh Planos

This was Coach Cal’s most experienced roster since he took over at Kentucky, by KenPom’s metric. And it looked about as discombobulated as any team he’s coached. Kentucky went 1-for-6 from the free throw line in OT. That didn’t help.

Sara Ziegler

As Loyola and Ohio State feel each other out early, let’s talk about last night’s shocker. A LOT of us had Kentucky in the Final Four — including the FiveThirtyEight model. What happened to the Wildcats?

James L. Jackson

Excited to check out this profile on Aliyah Boston, Sara. Thanks for sharing! She will be great this afternoon.

Santul Nerkar

In the men’s bracket, I’m really excited to see whether Yale lands a few early punches against Purdue. As Neil and I wrote this week, Purdue has one of the hallmark characteristics — an exceptionally poor defense — that has doomed past top seeds in the early rounds. The Bulldogs only has the 207th-best adjusted offensive efficiency in the country, according to KenPom, but can they put some game pressure on the Boilermakers?

In the women’s bracket, I’m excited about the prospects of Virginia Tech starting a Cinderella run with a win over Florida Gulf Coast. The Hokies haven’t been to a Sweet 16 since 1999, and they haven’t been seeded this high since then, either. Our model thinks their chances of getting there are slim (30 percent), but with their mix of 3-point marksmanship and a low turnover rate, they might have the ingredients to make a run.

Sara Ziegler

Same, Andres! The Cyclones could win a couple of games or lose very badly — no way to tell which.

Andres Waters

I’m actually looking forward to seeing your alma mater, Sara. I want to see how Iowa State fares against LSU tonight.

Jake Lourim

Not sure we can call Virginia Tech’s men’s team a “bid thief,” as the Hokies may have made the tournament even if they had lost to Duke in the ACC final, but it’ll definitely be interesting to see if they can keep it going against Texas this afternoon. The Longhorns have not won an NCAA Tournament game since 2014, but this is their first trip under Chris Beard, who has proven to be a great tournament coach.

And on the women’s side, Dayton-Georgia is one of a few potential upsets the model has its eye on. Dayton currently has a 43 percent chance to pull off the 11-6 upset.

Neil Paine

I’m looking forward to one of the games after our live blog will wrap: Houston vs. University of Alabama at Birmingham in the South regional. Houston will be a pretty fascinating test case for the approach we statheads love to use when analyzing the tournament — adjusting a team’s scoring margin for its average opponent iteratively, a la Ken Pomeroy’s ratings — as opposed to a more traditional take on a team’s strength of schedule. The Cougars are No. 4 in Pomeroy’s rankings, yet also beat only two NCAA tournament teams this year, Memphis and Bryant. So do we really trust them as much as the numbers say we should?

Sara Ziegler

Speaking of South Carolina, I’m always excited to watch Aliyah Boston play. We just published a profile of her this morning!

Jared Dubin

It’s hard to get too excited about them, though, because they have to play South Carolina next if they win.

Emily Scherer

Jared, speaking of the Canes, they’re currently leading South Florida in the first women’s game of the day!

Jared Dubin

Miami-USC. Go Canes!

Josh Planos

The opener should be a close one! Oddsmakers have Ohio State vs. Loyola Chicago as a pick ‘em. The FiveThirtyEight model gives Ohio State a 55 percent probability of advancing, but there is no model that can account for Sister Jean.

Emily Scherer

THE WOMEN!

Sara Ziegler

Welcome Back!

Thanks for joining us on Day 2 of our live coverage of the first round of the men’s NCAA Tournament — and Day 1 of the women’s tourney. Though we were a little short on excitement Thursday afternoon, last night delivered in spades. Close games abounded, but the big moment was when No. 2 Kentucky lost to No. 15 Saint Peter’s. Lots of brackets were busted there, but I think we can all be Peacocks fans going forward.

So let’s start off with the games we’re about to watch. Which matchups are you most excited for?

Sara Ziegler

That's A Wrap!

All right! That will do it for today. Thank you for joining us! We’ll be back Friday for the first afternoon game, Loyola of Chicago against Ohio State at 12:15 p.m. Eastern. We’ll have plenty of women’s games to talk about, too, as their tourney gets started.

Enjoy the night card, and we will see you tomorrow.

Josh Planos

Although we didn’t have as many upsets as some (most) of us would have liked, it was an interesting slate. Most of the high-majors held up, and the more experienced teams won out. Games like Providence-South Dakota State, Memphis-Boise State and Michigan-Colorado State still registered above 2.0 on the excitement index. And of course, Iowa-Richmond was the headliner at 7.3. A sleepy start seldom holds.

Jake Lourim

On a more serious note, Richmond-Iowa gave us some more unclear data on the influence of conference tournaments. Richmond struggled in the regular season, got hot in the conference tournament and kept it going. Iowa also got hot in the conference tournament and then completely laid an egg. Win some, lose some.

Jake Lourim

That Ted Lasso was really onto something: Richmond just needed to believe.

Santul Nerkar

I was surprised by the general … lack of surprises? Apart from Richmond’s upset of Iowa, there weren’t many game outcomes that upset the balance of power in this tournament. (Even the two other seed upsets, No. 11 Michigan over No. 6 Colorado State and No. 9 Memphis over No. 8 Boise State, were projected by our model.) Hopefully tomorrow will bring a much more active excitement index.

Oh, and how ’bout them Tar Heels?


Filed under

Exit mobile version