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Perry Bacon Jr.

Sondland is carefully not actually throwing Taylor, Holmes or the other bureaucrats under the bus or criticizing them for their testimony. It is interesting. He is, I think, trying to find a path that doesn’t annoy anyone that much. Not sure if he is succeeding.

Micah Cohen

It’s very odd, Sarah. Especially considering the text we just saw and the number of conversations that Sondland and Trump apparently had.

Sarah Frostenson

It really is bizarre. “President Trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on the meetings.” Yet, Sondland has testified at multiple points today that it was his personal belief that that is why the aid was held up. That’s such an odd needle to thread, no?


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