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Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux

Sondland is disputing some of the details from Holmes’s testimony, though — he says he wouldn’t have mentioned Biden to Holmes, for one thing. And he’s taking issue with some of the very direct language Holmes says he used about Trump’s views on Ukraine. We’ll hear more about this from Holmes tomorrow morning, of course.

Micah Cohen

“You understood that Rudy Giuliani spoke for the president, is that correct?”

“That’s correct.”

Clare Malone

“If we wanted to get anything done with Ukraine it was apparent we had to talk to Rudy.”


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