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Micah Cohen

Perry, I’m not quite there with you. It seems quite damning for Trump, in my view. There is some wiggle room — but that’s mostly coming from points where Sondland’s testimony puts distance between himself and Giuliani/etc.

Perry Bacon Jr.

This testimony so far has me thinking that Sondland has given a fairly pro-Trump take, considering all of the evidence we have.

Perry Bacon Jr.

Sondland basically confirms everything else from the Trump July 26 call that others have testified/told the press, namely that Trump did not really care about Ukraine other than investigations.


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