What Went Down At The January Democratic Debate

I’ll be following along with Sanders tonight on what I’m sure will be an active evening for him. He was caught up in two different scuffles this week with Warren. One was over Warren’s claim that Sanders told her in a private meeting that he didn’t think a woman could win the 2020 presidential election, and the second was over talking points that Sanders volunteers used to characterize Warren as the choice of “highly educated, more affluent people.” In both cases, the information was leaked to the press. There is just no way that the whole “a woman can’t win” thing won’t be interrogated on stage tonight. And given that the latest Des Moines Register poll showed Sanders in the lead, the other candidates will be out to score some body blows on him.

Lately, Sanders has pressed an electability argument — supporters at his rallies wave “Bernie beats Trump” signs — and he’s gone after Trump on breaking his promise to be a non-interventionist president. Given the inflamed tensions between the U.S. and Iran over the last couple of weeks, that’s sure to come up, too. Sanders, who voted against going into war with Iraq — unlike Biden — is sure to wave those bona fides all over the stage to bolster his case that the former vice president is part of the establishment problem. Mostly, though, I’ll be keeping track of how Sanders wears his sorta-kinda newly-gained front-runner status. We’ll see how it plays out!

As Nate said, there’s been some drama between Warren and Sanders in the lead-up to tonight’s debate with Warren confirming Sanders told her a woman couldn’t win the presidential election. Sanders is continuing to deny having made the comment, but it’s not a good headline for him going into the debate.

This is tricky terrain for Warren though, too. Questions around women’s electability can easily turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy — if voters are worried that a female candidate can’t win, they might be less inclined to vote for one. And it’s clear from polls and interviews that this is an issue that more than a few voters are worried about. A survey from the left-leaning group Avalanche Strategy illustrates this well: Warren is more popular when voters are asked to pick which candidate they’d choose if they could magically bypass the general election, and many mentioned gender as the reason.

That poll also found that very few Democrats think gender affects their own vote choice, but nearly half believe it affects other people’s vote. One risk for Warren if this topic comes up is that she could inadvertently reinforce some of these fears.

I’ll be focused on Elizabeth Warren tonight.

With this being the final debate before Iowa, it’s a big night for every candidate on stage, so I don’t necessarily want to say it’s a bigger night for Warren than, say, for Biden or Sanders. But unlike those two, who are essentially tied for the lead in the FiveThirtyEight forecast of Iowa (and for that matter also New Hampshire and Nevada), Warren has some coming-from-behind to do.

In theory, that might make her adopt slightly riskier strategies — potentially attacking both Biden (perhaps over her bankruptcy plan) and Sanders. In practice, it’s less clear what she’ll do.

Tensions between Sanders and Warren already escalated substantially this week after reports surfaced that Sanders had told her in a private meeting in 2018 that he didn’t think a woman could win the presidency. Sanders and his team have vehemently denied the account, although Warren repeated the claim in a statement she released. Warren’s campaign has since told key surrogates to de-escalate the tensions with Sanders, according to an account from BuzzFeed.

All of this could be open to any number of interpretations. The sourcing on the original story, for instance, is vague, but some of the sources seem to be people close to Warren; “two people Warren spoke with directly soon after the encounter” is how CNN describes them. There’s also no real way to tell, yet, whether the allegations will have a negative effect on Sanders, on Warren, on both, or on neither.

Two things seem safer to say at this point:

1. This is a fairly high-stakes conflict. Although the Sanders and Warren bases don’t perfectly overlap, they do have a lot in common; Sanders supporters are considerably more likely to also be considering Warren than any other candidate, and vice versa.
2. CNN, one of the co-hosts for tonight’s event, is also likely to play up any such conflicts. Of the various debate hosts, CNN, in the debate it hosted in Detroit, tended to ask questions that highlighted tensions between the candidates and which were sometimes more horse-race-y than policy-focused. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that, necessarily.) But the candidates might need to actively seek to avoid conflict in a CNN debate in a way they wouldn’t in one that was moderated differently.

Warren’s ideal evening would probably involve Sanders taking on a lot of incoming fire without her necessarily being the primary instigator of conflict. That’s a plausible scenario, too. Sanders has come to be perceived as a front-runner by the national media in a way that he wasn’t before. (Whether anything has actually changed is an open question — Sanders is in the same pretty-good-but-still-not-a-front-runner position in our forecast that he would have been a month or two ago — but leave that aside for now.) And when a candidate is newly anointed by the media as a front-runner, they tend to be a focal point of the debate — as Biden, Warren and Buttigieg (but oddly not really Sanders) have all experienced already.

Two more thoughts to close. First — it needs to be said — when judging candidates’ debate performances, the media can be inclined to apply harsher standards to women than men, especially when it comes to initiating conflict. And second, Warren tends to be pretty good at these things, consistently getting fairly high marks from voters in our post-debate surveys. So you can write some scripts where tonight turns out really well for Warren, but she’s going to have to think on her feet.